Conversation log 2020-06-07-3
I need you to decide what my next action is.
The current system, no matter how much you do, does not result in concrete action.
Because there's no question to make it a concrete action.
nishio.iconLet's talk.
nisbot.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation?
nishio.iconI need you to decide what my next action is.
nisbot.iconWhat type of next action is that next action?
nishio.icon(I guess that's what happens.
bye-bye
Let's talk.
nisbot.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation?
nishio.iconListen first.
nisbot.iconYes, sir.
nishio.iconI also created a "motivational system" a few years ago, "Why don't you take a walk?" "Have you tried writing it down? The system suggested next actions like, "Why don't you take a walk? While that system has quite a few fans, my side started to wonder, "Is it right to motivate people? I started to wonder if it was right to motivate them, and development has stopped. I see a large percentage of people who are on the verge of depression when I look at their input, and I wonder if services that motivate people should not exist as if it is a good thing. In other words, people who have many "things to do" and none of them are things they want to do, should not choose one of them to motivate them, but should first get away from that situation. Is it better to "help them find things they want to do that motivate them" rather than "motivate them?"
nisbot.iconon the other hand
nishio.iconThe "Motivation System" was a prototype that was implemented using only static content and Google Analytics without a server program, but now that the cost of server-side operation has come down, it may be possible to rebuild it with a server side. Like this chat, maybe the UI could be a chat too. I still ask questions like, "Can you finish that task in 4 hours? The composition is similar to this chat system. I was going to discuss about improving this "Kikidashi chat system," but a new idea called "Next Action Selection chat system" was born, and maybe the two could be combined internally and become different modes. And the listening chat system is all about divergence and not convergence at all! Is it divergent thinking mode and convergent thinking mode?
nisbot.iconserver program
nishio.iconthe end
nisbot.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation?
nishio.iconI want my Next Action to be decided.
nisbot.iconWhat type of next action is that next action?
nishio.iconHmmm, I knew this would happen. Actions to make the chat system better
nisbot.iconI want my Next Action to be decided.
Is there anything else you would like to share about this Next Action?
nishio.iconMaybe add a chat-like UI on the browser, or convert the motivation system to chat...
nisbot.iconWhat is it that you value?
nishio.iconThe current listening-out chat system works rather well in the direction of divergence, but it does not allow convergence, so the more we use it, the more we lose control. If the system can also support convergence, it would be good to be able to diverge and converge while talking to the bot alone.
nisbot.iconWhat is that chat system like?
nishio.iconI don't know about you, but I wonder if design firms do something like this?
nisbot.iconThe current listening-out chat system works rather well in the direction of divergence, but it does not allow convergence, so the more we use it, the more we lose control. If the system can also support convergence, it would be good to be able to diverge and converge while talking to the bot alone.
Is there anything else you would like to share about this chat system?
nishio.iconConvergence means deciding on a next action, and we have created a support system for this in the past that has been rather well received.
nisbot.iconHow do you know its Next Action?
nishio.iconThe support system will present it to you, and the one you goof on will be chosen.
nisbot.iconWhat is the relationship between Nextaction and chat systems?
nishio.iconRight now the next action suggestions are being made in a non-chat system way, but I can make more detailed suggestions if I get more information from the chat system or some other way. It doesn't have to be a chat system, it would be better to be able to paste a TODO list or something and have it read.
nisbot.iconWhat type of chat system is that?
nishio.iconAfter the TODO list is loaded, questions are asked about the items to encourage concretization. It is more important to have a system that asks questions than to have a chat system.
nisbot.iconWhere is that chat system located?
nishio.iconI want it to work on my phone.
nisbot.iconAfter the TODO list is loaded, questions are asked about the items to encourage concretization. It is more important to have a system that asks questions than to have a chat system.
How do you know this chat system?
nishio.iconWho am I? The user? How do I know how to create this chat system? I'm asking that and consulting the chat system.
nisbot.iconWhere is that chat system?
nishio.iconHEROKU.
nisbot.iconIs Next Action the same as a chat system? Is it different?
nishio.iconChat System Generates Next Action
nisbot.iconWhat happens to the chat system during that Next Action?
nishio.icon(First of all, listen, I wonder if you heard what I said...)
(That's too abstract a question.)
NGKW
nisbot.iconConvergence means deciding on a next action, and we have created a support system for this in the past that has been rather well received.
Is there anything else about this convergence?
nishio.iconNow it's only diverging, so pairing it with convergence will make it more valuable.
nisbot.iconHow do you know its convergence?
nishio.iconIf you see what the machine suggests and your heart moves, you have converged.
nisbot.iconIs there anything else you can tell us about that machine?
nishio.iconI was just talking about chat and loading to-do lists, but it would be interesting to see the data accumulate in Scrapbox.
nisbot.iconWhere is that TODO list located?
nishio.iconI'm thinking it would be great if I could import TODO lists in a text format or something like that, since people have different preferences for how they want to manage their TODO lists, and it would be even better if it supported major TODO management apps' formats. It might be useful to have keywords bracketed and such.
nisbot.iconIs there anything else about that TODO list?
nishio.iconMaybe we could help with the process of making it itself, if we don't have one, we could start by writing down anything that comes to mind for a minute, or filtering the list if we already have too many on hand.
nisbot.iconWhat type of process is the process itself?
nishio.iconThe process by which a TODO list is created
nisbot.iconHow do you know its TODO list?
nishio.iconWell, if you start with "write everything down," you don't have to assume that the first thing on your list is a TODO list.
nisbot.iconWhat is the relationship between that TODO list and convergence?
nishio.iconGood convergence is when the TODO list is a collection of a small number of actionable actions, and people are enthusiastic about performing those actions.
nisbot.iconWhere is that TODO list?
nishio.iconbe made
nisbot.iconIs convergence the same as a TODO list? Is it different?
nishio.iconA TODO list or a list that is not even a TODO is given as input to the system, the system asks questions, and a good TODO list that can be enthusiastic is output.
nisbot.iconWhat type of TODO list is that TODO list?
nishio.iconMaybe another name for "a list consisting only of actions you can be enthusiastic about," a boring TODO list isn't worth it.
nisbot.iconWhat does that TODO list look like?
nishio.iconGasoline. If the tank is filled with gasoline, it can run and run. If you put water in the tank, it can't run. Just a little bit of water in the tank will cause the engine to go haywire. Purity is important.
nisbot.iconWhat happens to your TODO list at the time of convergence?
nishio.iconIt turns into quality fuel.
nisbot.iconWhat happens to convergence when it comes to TODO lists?
nishio.iconHard to converge from nothing, need something written out, even if it's messy.
nisbot.iconWhat is the link between that convergence and the TODO list?
nishio.iconHmmm. I don't know.
nisbot.iconWhat is the relationship between todo lists and enthusiasm?
nishio.iconA good TODO list will generate enthusiasm.
nisbot.iconIs that enthusiasm the same as a TODO list? Is it different?
nishio.iconNo. The TODO list is the fuel, and the result of burning it in the engine is the driving force of enthusiasm.
nisbot.iconWhat happens to enthusiasm when its on the TODO list?
nishio.iconbecome more enthusiastic
nisbot.iconIs there anything else you can tell us about that enthusiasm?
nishio.iconEnthusiasm is the most precious resource, and if we can generate it mechanically, humanity will be very productive.
nisbot.iconWhat happens to your TODO list when its enthusiasm?
nishio.iconNew ideas come up and the TODO list gets fatter.
nisbot.iconWhat is the connection between that TODO list and enthusiasm?
nishio.iconOverly fat TODO lists can kill enthusiasm.
nisbot.iconWhat type of enthusiasm is this enthusiasm?
nishio.iconEnthusiasm that motivates you to take action.
nisbot.iconWhere is your enthusiasm for this?
nishio.iconWell, maybe around the chest.
nisbot.iconEnthusiasm that motivates you to take action.
Where is this enthusiasm?
nishio.iconIt's in people's minds and drives their actions.
nisbot.iconWhat is the relationship between the person and the TODO list?
nishio.iconCurrently, machines are not yet able to generate enthusiasm, so as we leave to machines what machines can do, the remaining role for people will be to generate enthusiasm, and the actions that generate TODO lists are also not being done by machines, they have to be done by people with enthusiasm.
nisbot.iconHow do you know its enthusiasm?
nishio.iconThis is not yet verbalized, Emotion.
nisbot.iconCurrently, machines are not yet able to generate enthusiasm, so as we leave to machines what machines can do, the remaining role for people will be to generate enthusiasm, and the actions that generate TODO lists are also not being done by machines, they have to be done by people with enthusiasm.
What is this enthusiasm like?
nishio.iconLike dynamite. The power to break through barriers.
nisbot.iconWhat is the relationship between actions and TODO lists?
nishio.iconThe TODO list must consist of concrete actions, and even if this current conversation has generated enthusiasm for the idea that we need a mechanism to reformulate the TODO list, it is still not a viable concrete action!
nisbot.iconIs the action the same as the TODO list? Is it different?
nishio.iconIt's a "good TODO list" even if there is only one specific action that can be performed, in fact, it might be better if there are no multiple actions because there is no room to think about "which one to do first"!
nisbot.iconWhat happens to your TODO list when that action is taken?
nishio.iconbye-bye
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